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Millions should attend a thank you vigil for this raid, now many new jobs for LEGAL residents should now be opened.

260 new jobs maybe coming to Grand Island alone, just think how many other jobs could be.




What are we doing as a community to allow somebody in office that knowingly knows of illegal living in GI.




As far as the children, they should have been deported with them, for they are being maybe even born as an illegal. Just cause you are BORN in the USA doesn't make you a legal if your parents are here illegally in the first place.

I knew of a man who is here illegally who has 10 children 3 here and the other in Mexico and thought it was funny that the state has been trying to get child support from him.

Now who do you think will be picking up the tab on all these illegal immigrants children

FIVE STARS FOR THOSE INVOLVED IN GOING AFTER ILLEGAL PEOPLE

Really?

What?? GI has a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce??? What the heck for?? News flash! This is America not Mexico.. Wake up Nebraska!!!
Illegal means just that illegal! Oh boo hoo you spent $1000 for a fake social security card when you can obtain one free of charge from the government if you come to America legally! What citizen is going to wake up one day and find everything they have worked their life for is in shambles because an illegal wanted a better life at the sake of a rightful citizen??? Get a clue! You take the risk to cross illegally, you have take your medicine when righfully caught! Illegal, go home!
You come for a better life, to be American. Then drop your culture at the border! We speak English, we have Independence day in July not September. We really don't care about you battle against the French in May! How dare you take to our streets and demand you do not deserve, rights given to citizens by the Constitution.If you don't have documents, then you are illegal and deserve to be rounded up and returned to the land you long for, with the language you refuse to let go of. This is our country and WE being Americans have every right to protect our culture, our language our identity, our Nation. Don't let the politicians bully into some sort of amnesty. We are the people and it's time to make the government listen to us! This is our country and if you love it, then get off your hands and do something to preserve it!

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I don't agree with the majority of what numbersusa.com has on its pages, (a website to which you have linked us to) but I will agree on one part, and that is it's view on immigrant bashing (they don't like it), which is what you seem to blatantly disregard, not only are you hateful towards immigrants legal and illegal, you are hateful of U.S. born citizens who are of Hispanic Heritage. The Hispanic Chamber of Commerce has filled a need in the community among Hispanic Businesses, a need which the regular Chamber of Commerce was not fully capable of meeting. What about the Hispanic Chamber is it that you don't like? That it's members are Hispanic? You are correct in one part, this is "OUR COUNTRY", not just yours "OUR".

I am American, and I am Hispanic and I certainly don't have to transform to your likings, I will celebrate what I want and when I want, I am not your slave, you don't pay my mortgage, you don't pay my bills, you don't feed my family, so don't tell me how to live my life.[/url]

Then can you do me a favor.....you and all the other Hispanics.....PLEASE quit shoving your culture down my throat, both in the media and at my job. I'm so SICK AND TIRED of all the classes, and all the media hype about the Latino Culture, Latino Rights, VIVA LA RAZA, etc. No race is above another, but over the last year or so, i've been pretty much told that Hispanics and their rights are MUCH more important than mine (and I'm white/native american!....and I never use my minority blood to prove a point normally!). It doesn't help that I have an activist boss who shoves Hispanic culture in our faces on a regular basis. She was in a complete tizzy over this whole raid ordeal! We thought we'd get flooded with families needing help, and guess what......not one call. Matter of fact, it was like it always is, and the raid had no impact. Imagine that after all the drama that was kicked up.

Mr .02 I don't care if you see things my way. I don't care if you feed you family, and I don't care if you pay your bills, good for you anyway. I don't care if you are hispanic or if you are purple!
My point is illegal is illegal is illegal. If you come to this country under unlawful circumstances, you are a criminal. Good intentions, best of motives, good will whatever, illegal is illegal! If you use a "purchased "SS# to gain employment, you have to know it is illegal. Come on even you know that! Illegal doesn't mean stupid!

I'm reminded of Gertrude Stein.

You aren't trying to compare a tangible object (a rose) with an intangible adjective/adverb (unlawful actions), are you? Because that comparison can't be made.

Your point depends on the period in time when an act is declared illegal. Before they enact that law, the act is legal; after they enact that law, it's illegal. After they rescind the law, it's legal again.

Laws can, and do, frequently change. Roses stay roses their whole life.

If your contention is on illegal immigration, then why attack the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, and your comment about "This is not Mexico", Hispanic is not derivative of Mexican. Immigrants to this country can and do adopt much of the American way of life, but in your view you ask that not only Immigrants but born U.S. citizens of a Hispanic background shed their culture; Catholism/christianity is deeply embeded into our culture, will you ask that we forgoe that as well.

Hey it's simple: Legal Americans have spoken and soon this will all be behind us like my post. I'm just proud of Legal Americans for speaking out loud enough to be heard where now the so call lazy Americans who just don't want to work. Will be able to have a chance to feed their families and do what they have done for many years before they were replaced by illegals. I myself would love to see the peoples who have hired illegal to at least think about the pain they caused hard working legal peoples. legal Americans are hardworking and DO WANT TO WORK. Americans also have kind hearts to whereas we do know how others are suffering too and once we are able to provide for our families and self's again we can and some will remember those of less fortune.

This is the true America and the wonderful RED WHITE AND BLUE. Something I truly believe in.

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Which culture? The Italian, Irish, Asian, Native American, African, or European? We all celebrate our "culture" one way or the other.

Our nation was built by immigration. We have been and should be the "melting pot".

Yes, illegal immigration is a problem. It has been a problem for decades! No one wanted to address the issue until recently. If they are illegal, arrrest them, but don't spout the hatred associated with the "our culture, our nation, our identity" bigots. Why should the Hispanic communities not celebrate their culture? I bet you do every day.

Where did your forefathers immigrate from? Does that culture still influence your life? There is nothing wrong with celebrating your culture. We are all Americans for crying out loud.

Think about this; if they are using SS#'s that have been stolen or taken from the deceased, why can't the IRS or SS administration do something about it? Should it take months or even years for something to be done? You're going to tell me the computers shouldn't be flashing red when that number is used? File a wrong SS# on your tax return and they know it immediately. Use a stolen SS# to get a job and it takes months to discover? Something smells in Washington.

I agree I think good old Washington has a hand in this. MONEY $$$. How they get it they don't care.

What's going to happen to the children of these illegal??? Are they going into states custody?

I heard a rumor that swift was going to have a layoff and they might have suggested the raid to officials... to get rid of people so they didn't have to pay severance pay or unemployment. Has anyone heard this??

been gone for awhile. came back, saw this, had to write...



are you a bigot? drop your culture at the border? what the heck are you talking about?



who are you to demand that people in this country speak english. and if they don't, should we impose a law that jails such non-english speaking criminals??? what about all the hillbillies, or inner city kids, or the easterners, or the southerners, or the northerners, or the vally girls? should we outlaw hip hop, cuz I can't understand a single thing they're saying either. and what if you speak just enough english to get by? is that enough for your satisfaction?

now on the same token, I don't think we should cater all govt services to as many languages as there are in the world, but as long as we don't do that, I don't think the rednecks should care if EVERYONE speaks english or not.



now, it is my belief that the vast majority of demonstrators are legal us citizens. and if that is the case (and we cannot prove that they weren't), then they were exercising their rights and you should be dang proud of them!



WHAT? do you have documents? are you illegal? what DOCUMENTS are you talking about? if someone immigrates to this country, are you suggesting that they must carry their "documents" with them at all times or risk being deported? what is this, nazi germany, the soviet union? papers please, or we will incarcerate you!!!



once again, you seem to have this mindset that reminds me of the borg on star trek. WE ARE BORG. WE WILL ASSIMILATE YOU! seriously, man, do you actually read this stuff to yourself before you hit the submit button?

I would love for you to give me some examples of "our identity", "our culture", and "our language". and don't say english for the language, cuz if you ask a brit if americans speak english, you will get an interesting answer...

Just so everyone knows, not ONE SINGLE CALL was received by law enforcement or CPS that any child was left homeless or without family after the event. NOT ONE. They were all fine and taken care of, whether it be by family or friends or by one of the parents if another got taken. But no child was removed or taken from any family due to homelessness or abandonment due to the raid.

That you know of, anyway.

I agree with this. The "American" culture is not just one tradition. It's different traditions. Whether your white, hispanic, black, asian, etc... everyone's culture's and traditions are different.


I am upset about the illegal's in the country, yes we need to do something to protect our borders... but realize that those who are legal are American's now... this country was born on immigration, like it or not... or we should have just let the Indian's be and migrated back to England on the Mayflower!!